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Clay #1
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This question might show my poor understanding of music files ... here goes.

I've noticed that in the BA 2.04 extended skin the album title displays under the song title IF it is an MP3 files BUT NOT if it is a WMA file (the information exists in the properties of both formats). This is a very cool feature but is there anything I can do to get the title to display for WMA's?

I've looked through help files and some of the actual HTML and can't find anything. Is the album  stored in different places depending on format?

Thanks to anyone who can help.

Clay
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Clay #2
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I've done a little research on this problem and it appears that the #Metadata function is returning an  empty string for the "album" option when accessing WMA files.

Has anyone else noticed this or is it unique to my environment? BTW ... most of my WMA tracks were ripped with MS Media Player version 7 or 8. All of the information listed in the Windows properities seems accurate for both MP3 and WMA files.

Any tools that I can use easily to do more investigation of actual file differences? A good tag display program would help ... I've looked for a couple but haven't found one that works well on both formats.
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Henry (Administrator) #3
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Seems you are the only one using WMAs... Can't help, sorry.  :(
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Azimuth #4
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I use nothing but WMA's! If I can find a "properly" tagged MP3, I can look into it.
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Clay #5
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Thanks Azimuth ... for awhile I thought I might be the only person using WMS's  ;)

In a related item I'd like to return the year the album was created from the tag info. I've tried using the #Metadata function with "year" and "date" with no success. What are the options for #Metadata and what format is the information returned in?

Thanks - Clay

P.S. I assume #Metadata is a core BrowseAmp function so it cannot be modified or enhanced by the skin. Is this assumption correct? In other words if there are bugs or enhancements to this function Henry has to make the change.
This post was edited on 2003-09-13, 14:12 by Unknown user.
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Azimuth #6
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I used QCD (link) to encode an MP3 track, and, the metadata is populated correctly. Not so for Media Player encoded files; all the tags are empty. I would suggest using QCD's built-in tag editor for fixing this. Maybe there is a tag populator for WMA's out there. I'll do some looking.
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Azimuth #7
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QCD's tag editor does not work for BA! This should not be so difficult! I'll keep digging, but, I have not yet had any luck with several tag editors.
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Henry (Administrator) #8
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I use a Winamp published function to read the metadata. The description follows.
to use, create an extendedFileInfoStruct, point the values filename and metadata to the
filename and metadata field you wish to query, and ret to a buffer, with retlen to the
length of that buffer, and then SendMessage(hwnd_winamp,WM_WA_IPC,&struct,IPC_GET_EXTENDED_FILE_INFO);
the results should be in the buffer pointed to by ret.
returns 1 if the decoder supports a getExtendedFileInfo method
I read from that description that extracting metadata depends on the decoder and in your case the WMA decoder does NOT support correct metadata extraction. There is no workaround from my side unless someone posts the code to extract metadata from WMA's so I can read the tags on my own.

But I'll do some test on my own...
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Azimuth #9
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Thanks for investigating, Henry.  :)
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Clay #10
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Thanks guys for all the work ... too bad WinAmp's function doesn't get the information for WMA's

It's a little strange because the Windows properities for the files show all the information correctly for both formats. I guess Microsoft knows more about MP3's than people give them credit for :)

I did find a WMA/MP3 converter and when I convert the file to MP3 it displays alright (The files are also 3 times as large  :o

I think we can stop this thread unless someone has a great idea how to get the metadata information (album/date/etc.) from WMA's.
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BrowseAmp is awesome! Thank you for it! Two questions about the latest version of BrowseAmp (2.04)...

1. Are there plans for BrowseAmp to read and display the cover art that is part of MP3s ID 3 v2.3 tags as it is included in MusicMatch?

2. Until that happens, how do I eliminate the box for coverart in the EXtended skin? I looked for a preference, looked through the HTML source (I'm not strong in Javascript), and then settled on making the box 0 x 0 pixels in the browser options page, but that just makes a small square box about 2 pixels high. How do I remove it from the page entirely?

Thanks!
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Henry (Administrator) #12
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Thanks!! :D

1. Not yet - Winamp does not support it, but maybe I can find a way to read that information on my own. How do I add image data to my MP3s? Is there some other software than MusicMatch?

2. No problem. Search the following line in the HTML source (index.html):
<img src="<#inifile section=layout key=coverfilename default=front.jpg>?src=<#CurrentTrackDirectory urlencoded=1>" width="<#inifile section=layout key=showwidth default=400>" height="<#inifile section=layout key=showheight default=400>" border="1">
Change to border="0". That's all!! You can change that in show.html too.
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Azimuth #13
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I've found the ID3 site that has a lot of info and programs that support ID3... ID3 Site
Looks like lots of good stuff there.
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Quote by Henry on 2003-09-15, 19:57:
1. Not yet - Winamp does not support it, but maybe I can find a way to read that information on my own. How do I add image data to my MP3s? Is there some other software than MusicMatch?
 
This feature would rock if you are able to implement it into BrowseAmp since all my albums i have, have the album cover included with the mp3.

The program i use is called Tag&Rename (http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm), When you get the progam to retrieve album songs and titles from allmusic.com there is a option to include album cover in id3 tag..
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